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June 9, 2026

Summary

In Episode 316 of The Block Runner Podcast, hosts William and I-man give an honest post-mortem on the first NAT.fun launch, break down why gold and AI equities are outrunning Bitcoin in this bear-market stretch, and walk through the plan for a second launch with healthier token distribution.

Disclosure: William and I-man are founders of NAT.fun and hold NAT tokens. All analysis in this episode reflects their perspective as participants in the ecosystem.

Key topics:

  1. Bear-market sentiment, round three: gold outrunning Bitcoin, Mark Cuban turning bearish, and David Hoffman exiting ETH, plus why the feeling of a market top keeps getting worse even as prices stay historically high
  2. The AI and equities bubble: Anthropic's revenue versus its trillion-dollar valuation, Jensen Huang's argument for growing GDP with AI and robots, and Mag 7 stocks versus Bitcoin in a market where attention, not fundamentals, sets the price
  3. Attention markets everywhere: gambling apps, Pokemon cards, and conspiracy and alien mania as symptoms of where speculative dopamine has migrated away from crypto
  4. The NAT.fun launch post-mortem: the first token's broken distribution (ten holders, one wallet holding around 80 percent, graduation in roughly ten minutes), why that makes a credible Vibathon impossible, and the second rocket plan with a higher graduation threshold for better NFT distribution
  5. Product direction: a tour of the Vibe Studio and the tarot-card creator example, integrating vibe creation into the launch flow, the Breaking Bad themed launch video breakdown, and an open letter to Foundry on Bitcoin's declining security budget and NAT

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